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The Things They Carried Warfare: The Vietnam War Quotes

How we cite our quotes: Citations follow this format: (Story Title.Paragraph)

Quote #1

The war wasn't all terror and violence. Sometimes things could get almost sweet… You could put a fancy spin on it, you could make it dance. (Spin.1-3)

Notice that O'Brien says "almost sweet" here. The story about Azar and the little boy isn't exactly sweet. Azar does give a chocolate bar to the little one-legged kid, but then he sympathizes with the soldier who shot the child, ran out of ammo, and couldn't finish the job. The war isn't transformed into sweetness and light, it's spun. All of the happy, funny moments that the men have—and some of them really are happy and really are funny—are rooted in the inevitable fact that the men are at war.

Quote #2

If you weren't humping, you were waiting. I remember the monotony. Digging foxholes. Slapping mosquitoes. The sun and heat and endless paddies. Even deep in the bush, where you could die any number of ways, the war was nakedly and aggressively boring. But it was a strange boredom. It was boredom with a twist that caused stomach disorders. […] Well, you'd think, this isn't so bad. And right then you'd hear gunfire behind you and your nuts would fly up into your throat and you'd be squealing pig squeals. That kind of boredom. (Spin.12)

War is boring, but it's a nervous, terrified boredom. Hollywood often presents war as a Stallone-fest, complete with Uzis ripping through the air and lots of screaming and blood and gore. It's not that there isn't a lot of blood and gore in The Things They Carried, but mostly the war is presented as it is in this quote—as a lot of downtime and marching during which you could unexpectedly die.

Quote #3

You're pinned down in some filthy hellhole of a paddy […] but then for a few seconds everything goes quiet and you look up and see the sun and a few puffy white clouds, and the immense serenity flashes against your eyeballs—the whole world gets rearranged—and even though you're pinned down by a war you've never felt more at peace. (Spin.17)

We have a feeling that this quote is part of O'Brien trying to use story-truth to convey something that civilians just can't understand. In the middle of a firefight, you've never felt more at peace? Yeah, all right. But we'll buy it—it's not like O'Brien's the first former soldier to write about the inherent contradictions in war or the first to use nature as a medium. Erich Maria Remarque did it more than sixty years earlier, in All Quiet on the Western Front.

Quote #4

A true war story is never moral […] if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue. (How to Tell a True War Story.8)

Tim O'Brien keeps introducing us to characters we love and want to hang out with. He tells us about the brotherhood among these characters. And now he's telling us that there's no rectitude or virtue in the war at all? It's a little confusing. Use Kiowa as an example, though: O'Brien takes the most virtuous, moral character in the book and drowns him in poop. When O'Brien says that the war isn't moral, he doesn't mean that none of the people in it are moral. He means that the war itself destroys morality.

Quote #5

In many cases a true war story cannot be believed. If you believe it, be skeptical. It's a question of credibility. Often the crazy stuff is true and the normal stuff isn't, because the normal stuff is necessary to make you believe the truly incredible craziness. (How to Tell a True War Story.19)

Here we get more about the crazy things that happen in war. We also hear that soldiers know they won't be believed when they talk about the war. They consciously make up "normal stuff" so that they have a chance of communicating with civilians. 

Quote #6

In a true war story, if there's a moral at all, it's like the thread that makes the cloth. You can't tease it out. You can't extract meaning without unraveling the deeper meaning. And in the end, really, there's nothing much to say about a true war story, except maybe "Oh." (How to Tell a True War Story.63)

Tim O'Brien is kind of telling all of us who analyze stories to shut up and go home. If he's really succeeded in telling his true war story, then all there should be to this Shmoop learning guide is the word "Oh" in giant letters. Fortunately for us, how he makes us say "Oh" is as interesting and meaningful as any moral could be.

Quote #7

War is hell, but that's not the half of it, because war is also mystery and terror and adventure and courage and discovery and holiness and pity and despair and longing and love. War is nasty; war is fun. War is thrilling; war is drudgery. War makes you a man; war makes you dead. […] You admire the fluid symmetries of troops on the move, the harmonies of sound and shape and proportion, the great sheets of metal-fire streaming down from a gunship, the illumination of rounds, the white phosphorus, the purply orange glow of napalm, the rocket's red glare. […] You hate it, yes, but your eyes do not […] Any battle or bombing or raid or artillery barrage has the aesthetic purity of absolute moral indifference—a powerful, implacable beauty—and a true war story will tell the truth about this, though the truth is ugly. (How to Tell a True War Story.85-6)

Here, as in the earlier quote about war being boredom, O'Brien is skewering the conventional wisdom that war is hell. The eye appreciates the aesthetic beauty of things like napalm and rockets—they're like fireworks!—and it's not like you can shut that part of you off. Just because something is beautiful doesn't mean it's nice.

Quote #8

And in the end, of course, a true war story is never about war […] It's about love and memory. It's about sorrow. It's about sisters who never write back and people who never listen. (How to Tell a True War Story.106)

We've got the "civilians will never understand" thing again with the part about sisters who don't write back and people who don't listen, but we also have the idea that war, at its heart, isn't about war. It's about the people who are caught up in war, with their love and their memories and their sadness.

Quote #9

[Norman] could not talk about it and never would. The evening was smooth and warm.

If it had been possible, which it wasn't, he would have explained how his friend Kiowa slipped away that night beneath the dark swampy field. He was folded in with the war; he was part of the waste. (Speaking of Courage.123-124)

Bowker keeps saying he wants someone to talk to about what happened to Kiowa, but he just can't. Even when the intercom at the A&W asks him to talk—an inanimate and therefore non-judgmental object with all the time in the world—he's still unable to speak. And finally, he realizes it. Unable to speak, he is folded into the war just as much as Kiowa is.

Quote #10

I was down there with him… I was the beast on their lips—I was Nam—the horror, the war. (The Ghost Soldiers.138)

So in the middle of a prank that he's playing on Bobby Jorgenson, in which he's pretending that dead soldiers have risen from the dead, O'Brien becomes the atrocity and horror of the war. By reanimating the soldiers for the wrong purposes—not memory and respect, but revenge—he's made the memory go rotten. His trick of using stories to bring the dead back to life has backfired, and he's been dragged down into the moral vacuum that is the war.